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Title: Centwave optimal parameters
Post by: uweschmitt on November 30, 2011, 12:35:46 PM
Hi,

I'm looking for some resources to find good parameter settings for the
centwave algorithm. I'm using orbitrap data.
I tried the search function of this forum, but found no hints.

Regards, Uwe
Title: Re: Centwave optimal parameters
Post by: hpbenton on November 30, 2011, 12:57:58 PM
Uwe,

Try looking at the old google groups page.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searc ... UhJfaiK6IJ (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/xcms/orbitrap$20parameters/xcms/sEsirr0OJOY/obUhJfaiK6IJ)
The main parameters on centWave are peak width and the ppm parameter. I believe I'm correct in say that most of the orbitrap people use the default ppm value. However, the peak width parameter will vary greatly on the LC method you're using.

Hope it helps, let me know how you get on.

Paul
Title: Re: Centwave optimal parameters
Post by: uweschmitt on December 01, 2011, 06:45:01 AM
I tried the default parameter ppm=25 but then I get warnigs about insertion
problems. What does this mean ?

Regards, Uwe
Title: Re: Centwave optimal parameters
Post by: sneumann on December 01, 2011, 07:51:13 AM
Hi Uwe,

these "insertion problems" occur if you have two masses very close (defined implicitly through the ppm parameter) within
a single mass spectrum. Usually with centroided data, that should not happen (by definition...).

In Orbitrap data that might happen due to the Orbitrap typical symmetrical artifacts (shoulders)
around high abundant peaks, and possibly the centroiding algorithm used by Thermo. If there is only a few hundred, that is not a serious problem,
and you could reduce ppm to, say, 10-15 ppm. Tens of thousands would hint at a profile spectrum.

Yours,
Steffen
Title: Re: Centwave optimal parameters
Post by: uwe.geppert on August 20, 2012, 07:27:05 AM
Hello,

i am writing my master thesis in ecology and try to analyse FTICR-MS data.
Since I never analysed statistically LC/MS data before and I am qite new to R I would be very thankful if anyone can provide me with the R code to determine the optimal parameters.
Is Centwave even the right method? What about MassSpecWavelet?

Many thanks and kind regards,
Uwe

P.S.: I used LTQ-FT (Thermo Fisher) and converted the Xcalibur raw files with Xcalibur to net.CDF
Title: Re: Centwave optimal parameters
Post by: uwe.geppert on August 21, 2012, 07:04:01 AM
Addendum:

I used MSConvert to create centroid data from the Thermo raw data. Let's see what happens with "ppm=5" ...

Unfortunately no peaks have been found.

Please help!

Now I'm trying: xset<-xcmsSet(steps=1,profmethod="bin") ...
Title: Re: Centwave optimal parameters
Post by: uwe.geppert on August 30, 2012, 06:58:30 AM
XCMS online worked!