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MS-DIAL / Re: GC-TOF data processing in MSDIAL and redundancies in features identification
Dear Banani,

sounds like the alignment is too strikt with the accurate mass.

I dont have access to an accurate gc-ms, but I know that the alignment settings can be changed for accurate mass for lc-ms but there is no mass deviation setting for normal gc-ms.
Maybe its missing for accurate gc mass or hidden in the tab where you can click accurate mass (peak detection)?

Best,
Martin
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MS-DIAL / Re: Normalization using cell protein content
Hello Pan,

do you have additionally an internal standard in your samples?

If yes: IS normalization in MS Dial, then take the alignment sheet and divide your samples by the corresponding protein amount.

If not: take the alignment sheet and divide your samples by the corresponding protein amount

You can do a TIC / mTIC normalization, but I'm not very confinced it has a lot of benifits.

All the best,
Martin
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MS-DIAL / Re: MSDial crashes after closing Table viewer
Dear Skuis,

thank you for your reply!

Maybe the problems are somehow connected that you have it while editing the alignment table, and I have it in the table viewer.

Does the crash also mostly/always happen when you close the window?

All the best,
Martin
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MS-DIAL / MSDial crashes after closing Table viewer
Dear all,

at the moment I have small sets of samples (around 100 per experiment).

The problem I am facing with all my different experiments is after I close the Table viewer for the aligned chromatograms, the program crashes about 20% of the time. I have the feeling, the longer I am in the table viewer, the higher the chances are.

Is there a logfile or a debugging mode I can view/switch on?

Thank you,
all the best,

Martin

Language: English (UK)
Windows 10 Pro

MS-DIAL ver. 4.60

#Data type
Data type   Centroid
Ion mode   Positive
Accuracy type   IsNominal
#Data collection parameters
Retention time begin   0
Retention time end   45
Mass range begin   50
Mass range end   600

#Data processing
Number of threads   4

#Peak detection parameters
Smoothing method   LinearWeightedMovingAverage
Smoothing level   3
Average peak width   20
Minimum peak height   1000
Mass slice width   0.5
Mass accuracy   0.5

#MS1Dec parameters
Sigma window value   0.5
Amplitude cut off   10

#identification
MSP file   F:\Biology\Libraries\GCMS DB_FiehnBinbase-KovatRI-VS2.msp
RI index file   see last
Retention type   RI
RI compound   Alkanes
Retention time tolerance   0.5
Retention index tolerance   25
EI similarity library tolerance   70
Identification score cut off   70
Use retention information for scoring   True
Use retention information for filtering   False
Use quant masses defined in MSP format file   True

#Alignment parameters setting
Reference file   F:\Biology\Data\2021_Macro_ExpII_IntSt-MB\BT TOF\mzml\abf\Pool_1_b1_SL_start_275sec.abf
Retention time   RI
Retention index tolerance   20
Retention time tolerance   0.075
EI similarity tolerance   70
Retention time factor   0.5
EI similarity factor   0.5
Identification after alignment   False
Gap filling by compulsion   True
Basepeak mz selected as the representative quant mass   False

#Filtering setting
Peak count filter   0
N% detected in at least one group   0
Remove feature based on peak height fold-change   True
Sample max / blank average   5
Sample average / blank average   5
Keep identified and annotated metabolites   True
Keep removable features and assign the tag for checking   True

#RI dictionary (analysis file path / ri dictionary file path)
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MS-DIAL / Question concerning the RT and RI in MS-DIAL
Hello everyone,

I have a question concerning the Retention Time and Index in MS-Dial compared to ChromaTOF:

I process Leco BT-TOF accurate GC-MS data. For testing I loaded 5 Quality Controls with increasing concentration. The Peaks are found, integrated and aligned really nicely!

But when I check the peaks in ChromaTOF I dont find any of them at those times. So I looked for my Internal Standard, and when I have a look at the EIC in my blank, there is one nice peak with 361 at 16.7 minutes (the Internal Standard). Yet when I check the time for the peak in ChromaTOF it says 1250 seconds, which would translate to 20.833 minutes.

When I have a look at the Retention Index it says 1890 in MS-Dial, and 2292 in Chromatof, calculated with the same Kovats-RI List.

The files were directly exportet as mzml in centroid mode from Chromatof and then transformed to abf. No Retention Time cutting was performed.

I hope my question is somehow clear and somebody has an Idea what setting I chose wrongly! :)

All the best,
and thank you a lot!
Martin