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Scientific themes => Analytical techniques => Sample preparation => Topic started by: Sebas on April 21, 2020, 11:12:15 AM

Title: Quantification relative vs quantification absolue
Post by: Sebas on April 21, 2020, 11:12:15 AM
Dear all,

Sorry for this basic question, but i need our advice about relative lipids quantifiation between two sample.
I'm beginner.

Imagine that we started with the same starting quantity of a sample (weight (ie 10 mg DW).
We wish to compare samples A versus B.
No internal standard during extraction
Injection using LC-QTOF ddmS2, data procesing using MS_Dial and Lipid blast for annotation.
Is it possible to perform a relative quantification between A and B (normalization to total amount of a lipid class or all measured lipid classes) ? or an internal standard need to be put during extraction process ?

Sorry for this basic question
Title: Re: Quantification relative vs quantification absolue
Post by: CoreyG on April 28, 2020, 07:34:21 AM
Hi Sebas,

No problem is asking basic questions. That's why we are here!

So, ideally you would have had internal standards added from as early a step as possible. Given that you do not have that, it is possible to perform a 'relative quantitation', but there are a lot of caveats. Using internal standards allows a lot more than just quantification.

First thing, it's important that you have performed all the other steps appropriately:

So interesting things to think about. If you did have internal standards and you measured 20 lipids in a class. Using the standard way of calculating concentration=[ISTD conc]*[peak area]/[ISTD area], for all measurements. Then, if you did normalize to the lipid class, you would get the same answer as if you completely ignored the internal standard!
Whenever you ratio concentrations that used the same internal standard, you remove the effect of the internal standard.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Quantification relative vs quantification absolue
Post by: Sebas on April 28, 2020, 09:03:07 AM
Hi CoreyG,

Thank you very much for this reply.